Some thoughts about the Steve/Danny Relationshipt (Hawaii Five-0)

[bm_shipper]

Heya...

I thought a lot about "my new obsession" over the last days, especially about Steve/Danny and the "relationship" they are having and where the writers could have head to... and since I'm always "up for discussion", I thought, I could maybe share "my" opinion about this... especially because I REALLY don't know what to think about anymore... *lol* I thought I knew, but I'm not so sure anymore...

I have to admit: When I saw the first episode, I wasn't very thrilled at all... of course I noticed the "tension" between Steve an Danny, but becaues the show itself didn't hook me "immediately", I didn't think all too much about it... then there was the 2nd episode which I TOTALLY loved and adored and all of sudden I fell for the show...

and of course for Steve/Danny and whatever it is they are having...

But well, since I love this show, I'm now REALLY thinking about, which direction the writers will choose...

I'd like to compare it for example to "Bones" and the relationship between Booth and Bones... there always was some "tension" right from the start, and even if they are STILL not together or close to being together, it's more then obvious, that at SOME point they will be... maybe it will mean the end of the show, I don't know, but since they are really dragging it out for SOOOOO long, I think it will be the Season finale sooner or later... the wedding or something like that... them finally getting together...

but it's not as if there "never happened" anything between them... the writers are always throwing some bones... for example in Season 3 when they kissed underneath the mistle toe... or last season, with Booth REALLY wanting to "go for it"...

Now I'm asking myself, what the writers of "Hawaii Five-0" want... I mean, it's obvious that they want to show Steve and Danny as straight cool guys... I mean, why else would they bring "Catherine" into the game at all if not to prove that Steve is "oh so straight"...

but on the other hand they are "throwing bones" either, like in the last episode with the "Who are you talking to, your wife?" - "My partner" conversation... or the "You miss me, don't you?" thing...

It's as if the writers know EXACTLY what they are doing and that they really do this on purpose...

But I don't think they are REALLY heading into the direction of getting Steve and Danny together at some point, or do they?

I mean, I'm absolutely aware of the fact that the "main thing" of the show will be the "solving crimes" suspect, like it's always in "such shows"... It's in BONES too... or in for example 21 JUMP STREET and so on... but at some point, there IS some romance involved... mostly... even in "The Mentalist" we already HAD this kind of thing (and I haven't given up hope yet, that there will happen something again between 2 of the characters :P), so I'm asking myself, if at some point Steve and Danny will both hook up with girls or if they will stay single and have this "awkward kind of relationship"...

I mean, for ME it's always "more interesting" seeing something that "is not there" or better to say "something that they don't show"... I'm a slash whore like whoa, and the people who know me know this either, and I always had a thing for "pairings that don't really exist"... like in Prison Break Michael and Sucre or Lincoln and Alex and there is a loooooooooooong list of this... "my" pairings usually DON'T get together at all *lol*

Personally I don't think we will ever actually see Steve and Danny kissing, but on the other hand... if the writers REALLY wanna show how "straight" they are, why all this "hints" that they are not? Why all this comments about them "having something together"?

I'm a bit confused to be honest *lol*

and the other thing is: I don't know much about Alex or Scott... I mean, nothing "personal", like if they even would act something like that... I mean, I don't think they are homophobic at all, don't misunderstand me, but there ARE actors who prefer NOT to play a gay role or kiss people of the same sex, even for a movie or a tv-show... I don't know if Alex or Scott would actually "do it"... but I would love them if so *lol* =D

So well... what do YOU think? Do you think there WILL happen something at some point? Or are the writers just "playing" with the watcher's fantasies?

I mean, honestly... if they would actually be "brave" enough to go for something like that, that would be a first, would it? At least *I* have never seen something like that in a crime show... a lot of man/female main characters hooking up but never some male/male main characters hooking up =p I would love to see something like that for once =D

Comments

[emocezi.livejournal.com]

Personally I don't think we will ever actually see Steve and Danny kissing, but on the other hand... if the writers REALLY wanna show how "straight" they are, why all this "hints" that they are not? Why all this comments about them "having something together"?


You have to remember something. The network that hosts Hawaii Five-O is CBS.

They would light themselves on fire before they aired an open homosexual couple on a 'straight laced' cop show.

Give it a few months and some uptight stay-at-home mom will find something to complain about and they'll cancel the show, no matter how good the ratings are. That's just how CBS rolls.

[bm-shipper.livejournal.com]

Well... I have to admit: I don't know much about all this... since I'm from Austria - so the other side of the country - I have not much of a clue about the networks in the USA ^^" If not for Livejournal and other websites, I wouldn't even be able to watch "Hawaii Five-0" at all...

But maybe I will have to "search for" such things at all...

Thanks for the information...

I really really hope, they won't cancel Hawaii Five-0 all too soon... it's too good to get cancelled...

[emocezi.livejournal.com]

Since I'm from Austria - so the other side of the country

If by country, you meant world as Austria is on another continent completely.

And yeah, CBS and angry stay-at-home-moms have a habit of complaining about things to get shows canceled because they apparently have nothing better to do with their time. It's been renewed for a second season already, but we'll see how long that lasts.

However, the writers will most likely stay on the topic of long, slashy looks between Steve and Danny and keep in the running gag of them being 'married'. There won't be any actual slash on the show, ever. I imagine one of them will soon start being in a committed relationship with a woman so the whole UST with their partner will slowly die down.

It's fucking sad really. Stupid homophobic Americans. Btw, I'm Canadian.

[lamardeuse.livejournal.com]

I hate to say it, but I'm afraid emocezi is dead right. Considering the amount of anti-gay sentiment in the US at the moment, the idea that a non-cable network (ABC, CBS and NBC are the non-cable networks in the US, with cable networks like HBO and Showtime airing original shows with more adult and controversial content) would actually go there with a mainstream cop drama is pretty unlikely. The show's producers apparently once worked in a creative capacity on Xena, so they're well aware of subtext and are obviously not averse to the tease, but I don't know that it's ever going to amount to anything. However, they're giving us so much to work with that I don't really care - I'm perfectly willing to fill in the blanks with fic. :)

[bm-shipper.livejournal.com]

Sorry, I meant other side of the continent... I'M sorry... *lol* I was kinda "in thoughts" when I typed this... I MEANT continent... other side of the world actually...

And thanks for all the information of CBS...

I now know again in what a "great country" i live... I mean, you should see the scenes they are showing at 7 in the evening... gay scenes that is... especially in soaps you see A LOT "naked skin" if you wanna call it like this... you don't even need to slash, because there are lots of gay couples in German TV... one of them even married recently after 2 years relationship... but well...

Long story short... I was also "afraid" that there WILL be some serious relationship eventually between Steve of Danny and some woman, but I would rather have them stay "single" and have "their moments" than "destroying" what great chemistry they have with doing something like that -.-

*sighs*

[bm-shipper.livejournal.com]

Yeah, you're totally right *lol*
Things not acutally "being there" had never been an "issue" for me... and neither an obstacle *lol*

I've always "slashed" people I KNEW would NEVER actually BE a couple, but well... there is SO much more subtext, than I've seen in a loooooooooooong time... so I thought maybe... just maybe, the writers go in another direction...

Yeah, I'm THAT naive =D

[malicat.livejournal.com]

Bei Merlin ist es so ähnlich.Da kann man teilweise schon nicht mehr von 'subtext' zwischen Merlin und Arthur sprechen (z.B. wenn Arthur zu Merlin sagt 'Is your little bottom sore?') und es ist total offensichtlich,dass das extra ist :D Aber es ist auch klar,dass da natürlich nie was passieren wird. Ich denke,bei Hawaii 5-0 ist das so ähnlich. Die Autoren müssen sich bewusst sein,wie manche Szenen/Dialoge ankommen,von daher machen die das schon extra. Aber wirklich was passieren wird zwischen den beiden nicht. Wenn das jetzt HBO oder Showtime wäre,wäre das was anderes aber nicht bei CBS *sigh* Aber ehrlich gesagt brauch ich das auch gar nicht. Solange dieses Gekabbel zwischen den beiden nicht irgendwann aufhört,kann ich da ewig zuschauen *g*

[bm-shipper.livejournal.com]

Naja, du kennst mich ;-) ich hab dieses "Gekabbel" noch nie gebraucht, um jemanden zu slashen ;-) da reicht oft schon wenn jemand sich "besonders gut" versteht... aber "eigentlich" bin ich sowas nicht wirklich gewöhnt... weil in den meisten anderen Serien wo ich geslasht habe - Prison Break zB - gab's zwar auch manchmal Subtext, aber doch bei weitem nicht so "ausgeprägt"... da war zB Michael und Sucre für mich DAS "Pärchen" einfach nur, weil sie sich einfach SO nahe standen, und füreinander gestorben wären, aber da war ja definitiv nicht so ein "Subtext" wie zB jetzt bei "Hawaii Five-0"... und da ich zB "Merlin" nicht gucke, kann ich auch nicht "beurteilen" wie es dort ist, aber scheint ja ähnlich zu sein wie bei Hawaii Five-0 :-) also ja, für mich muss auch nichts passieren, solange sie bloß immer so weiter machen wie bisher ;-) für alles andere gibt's ja Fanfics ;-)

Das Problem ist, dass sowas gerne mal aufhört, wenn dann einer von beiden ne Freundin hat... ich weiß ja nicht ob du jemals 21 Jump Street gesehen hast, aber als Tom dann damals diese Freundin hatte - und Doug auch - wurde das echt weniger... na mal abwarten :)

[koronaphoenix.livejournal.com]

I actually posted an entry (http://koronaphoenix.livejournal.com/1145.html) in my journal a few days ago that included my thoughts on this very subject.

In a nutshell, I think that:

- Yes, the subtext is absolutely intentional. They are aware that there are people like us who enjoy the idea of two male characters together, and they give it to us without really giving it to us. Although I wouldn't go quite as far as to say that bigger networks would never let allow one of their shows to depict an openly gay relationship (because that's not the case), I am fairly certain that Hawaii 5-0 is one of the shows that will never go there. Not only because it is an action series that most likely attracts a large male demographic, but also because it is based on another series, and people would seriously freak out if Steve and Danny became romantically involved. Old fans are already freaking out over the fact that it's not the same exact show.

- I agree with you about Catherine. I read a review somewhere that essentially said that they needed to introduce Catherine as a love interest to Steve in order to balance out the "intensity" (i.e. gayness) of Steve and Danny's relationship. The relationship between Steve and Catherine seems pretty shallow and underdeveloped, so I tend to think this is exactly why they created her character. Aside from the convenience of having his "girlfriend" in Navy Intelligence, I mean.

- I think O'Loughlin and Caan are probably perfectly aware of how their dialogue could be interpreted. And of course, they probably get asked about their "great chemistry" or something to that effect in every interview. In response to a question like this, O'Loughlin actually said: "Oh yeah, we will be the bromance of the decade!" :) Most actors seem more receptive to playing gay roles than one might expect, so I wouldn't assume that either would refuse to play a gay character. But that's not really the issue here.

[purple-spock.livejournal.com]

I agree that unfortunately CBS isn't likely to do anything that deviates from the safe lands of heterosexuality in hopes of making their shows as universally popular as possible. However, to deal with your comment about would Alex and Scott be open to acting those scenes out, I don't know a lot about Alex, but it's my understanding that Scott Caan is a hard core method actor, implying that if he thinks his character would do it, he'd do it too. Also, when he was in Varsity Blues, there was a scene in which only the women were supposed to be nude (or partially nude, can't remember) and he felt that this was sexist so he got naked as well [yay]. This is my round about way of saying that as far as I'm aware he is a pretty liberal guy who brings liberal values to his work, so it by some miracle CBS did say "Screw you" to all the people who would protest such blatant homosexuality in a cop show and did write a scene between the two characters, then yes, I think that Scott Caan would do it.
I'm from Canada, that land where Queer as Folk was filmed and home to the like second largest Pride Parade in the world or something, so while there are still plenty of people who are anti-gay, it's a lot less accepted to voice any sort of opinion about it. A lot of the Canadian films and movies I watch are pretty casual with their portrayal of homosexuality and same sex relationships, so I think that if it was introduced into the show, up here people probably wouldn't freak out that much. I could be wrong though, and I'm not trying to say that Americans are really likely to freak out. I'm just trying to say (in my own round about way) that I don't think it would hugely effect the ratings up here, but I have a feeling that it might elsewhere, and as TV networks are ruled by the ratings, it sadly doesn't seem like a gamble CBS would take.
A final thought: Maybe the people who produce the show are blind to the innuendo and tension, and it's all the work of a few writers with a good sense of humour who want to see how married they can make the two of them before everyone notices.
Wow. This is super long. Didn't know I had that much to say.

[patchcat.livejournal.com]

*points to the other two* Yeah, what they said, unfortunately. Homosexuality is a very controversial topic in this country. Which I will never understand, but that's another rant for another day, really, and not very on topic for your post.

Honestly, while it's great to hear that the show's been picked up for another season (I mean really, YAY! I hadn't heard that until I read emocezi's comment.), I fully expect to see a lot of the UST that we've been seeing between our boys be toned down a lot, if it doesn't disappear completely. And it's just a matter of time before one or the other (or both) of them find a female interest. That's just how American TV is.

It's really annoying that most network TV is "sanitized for our protection." *rolls eyes*

Also, I have to ask WHAT show is that in your sidebar? The clips are very interesting. ^_^

[littleeva.livejournal.com]

but on the other hand they are "throwing bones" either, like in the last episode with the "Who are you talking to, your wife?" - "My partner" conversation... or the "You miss me, don't you?" thing...

It's like they don't want them to get together but they're teasing the audience. If you watch that scene again, when Steve says it's his "partner." The older man looks as if he wants to say, "you don't look gay" or something like that.

But CBS would NEVER have them get together, even though my mom who's 78 years old would love to see that!

[bm-shipper.livejournal.com]

Which ones? that's 2 different shows... 2 different couples...

1-5 is from a German Soap called "Gute Zeiten Schlechte Zeiten" (Good times bad times), and the 2 boys played a gay couple for a bout a year... or at least their story lasted about 1 year, and recently (in September) they left the show together... not becaues they are gay or something like that, but both of the actors wanted to do "other things" ;-) So the best way was to write them out TOGETHER...

7-14 are from another Daily Soap called "Alles was zählt" (Everything that counts) and they are a "couple" in the show for about 3 years now... okay... and "on-off couple", if you wanna say so *lol* They are together for the 3rd time now... have broken up 2 times... first because Deniz cheated on Roman with a woman, and they got back together after a while... then this year in June or something like that Roman's ex-boyfriend and his first love appeared againa nd Roman started an affair with this Marc guy... next break-up was up to come, but since September they are happy again ;-)

"Alles was zählt" is definitely the "more open show" and you see a lot of "naked skin" from the two boys... and their whole storyline is even available with english suptitels on youtube ;-) Just if you wanna check it out... eskimokissproject uploaded all of their episodes starting with episode 233... it's addicting ;-)

and yes, I'm afraid the "tension" between the 2 of them will vanish completely... it did back then with 21 Jump Street (yes, I'm THIS old *lol*), the show with Johnny depp and Peter DeLuise... Tom and Doug had SO fucking much chemistry, there was even some kissing in the outtakes and so on, because they made fun of it, but when their two characters got girlfriends, everything changed... *sighs*

[bm-shipper.livejournal.com]

I noticed that too... I mean, the look on the "old man's" face... I already said that in the livejournal of one of my friends here... that the old man looked like he wanted to say "and what exactly is the difference?" or something like that...

I know that lots of people might have a problem with "such things", but well... maybe it's my "breeding", but for ME personally LOVE was always LOVE... and Love was always "genderless"...

My parents always told me "It doesn't matter who you love, as long as you love"... and this sentence is like my "personal slogan" ever since... Some people even might thing I'm a "heterophobic person" because I always prefer to "slash" the characters even if they have girlfriends, but I don't mind het at all, I just "prefer" slash or fem-slash ;-)

[copper-on-mars.livejournal.com]

Oh, I think the writers are doing this intentionally. They fully realize there are slash fans and queer people who would appreciate occasional gay joke. They'll never actually have Danny and Steve have a romantic relationship (or be fuckbuddies, as Steve and Catherine are), but giving us innuendo and longing looks? They're not above this (grr, bigots!).

This aside, H50 is very good for ficwriters. Those *_* eyes Steve makes every time Danny starts ranting at him, his soft smiles... Honestly, I had my own moments of 'OMG the writers are totally going to have them be gay (bi) for each other!'

And wow, Austria is cool for being so gay-friendly. I remember only ONE gay character from a Russian soap opera, and he wasn't portrayed realistically (it was a bit insulting, even). No lesbian characters, no bi, no trans (though there was a show with male-to-female transformation, 'Margosha', but there was magic involved).

[bm-shipper.livejournal.com]

Steve and Danny definitely have SO much potential... there is this german Show called "Alarm für Cobra 11" with 2 Railway Cops, and seriously... the chemistry is SO similiar to Steve/Danny and also there are some "gay jokes" from time to time, even though one of them is married and has 2 kids and I'm fully aware, that there is NEVER EVER something going to happen between them, but from time to time, they are still writing "such things" into it... the "Partner thing" was a "Subject" too in one of the last episodes when Ben was chasing after Semir and jumping in a car and the lady asked "Who are we following" and he answered "my partner" and she looked at him like "why are the best always gay?" *lol*

But I know there will never be something happening between them... but definitely from other reasons... because it just wouldn't fit and Semir always was straight, plus Semir hat a lot of "partners" before Ben and there NEVER was this chemistry...

It's still sad with Hawaii Five-0, because the "relationship" between Steve and Danny would have SO much potential if you ask me... they could do SO much with the 2 of them... much more than they are doing, and I'm pretty sure Catherin should be a "proof" of how straight Steve is... *sighs*

I would have rather NO girlfriend and NOTHING happening at all between them (aka no kissing and so on), then eventually both ending up with a woman so that no one thinks "wrong" -.-

*sighs*

but yes... the German TV is REALLY gay-friendly, I would say... we have 5 daily Soaps and I'm watching 3 of them... every single one of them has at least ONE gay pairing... Verbotene Liebe (Forbidden Love) hwill soon have a gay AND a lesbian couple... Alles was zählt "Everything that counts) has Deniz and Roman for years now and this relationship is VERY established... so yes... I think, I can be happy to live where I live...

[bm-shipper.livejournal.com]

thanks for the information... I have to admit: I didn'T know Scott before at all... I watched the show because of Alex... I saw him in "Moonlight" and "Three Rivers" and also in this movie with Jennife Lopez, and I have no idea, how he thinks about this, but I know there are some actors who WOULD have a problem with playing a gay role, or even kiss a person of the same sex... for example in this german Daily Soap, there is this one actor, who even let it write in his contract, that he will NEVER will have to kiss a guy... but I guess, there are always "black sheeps" in this case...

I have to say; I can be lucky to be from Austria, because the German TV is REALLY really open minded in this case... *points to sidebar* All those scenes are from german Daily soaps, and are showed between 7 and 8 p.m. in the evening... both soaps are 30 minutes long a day.... so like I said: I can be VERY lucky, because "we" are really open with homosexuality... they show things most of the american channels would never show...

I would love, if at least one channel would maybe show a crime show with a gay character in the lead role... he doesn't even need to hook up with his "partner" or something like that, but I don't think this is possible...

We have a german crime show called "Mit Herz und Handschellen" and the male main character is gay... okay, his partner is a woman, but well, it's still something that might not be possible in America...

Thank you for your comment, really!

[bm-shipper.livejournal.com]

I just read your entry, and I can agree with you wholeheartely :-)

I was asking myself, if there will EVER happen something between Steve and Danny... they wouldn't even have to "mean" it romantically... I mean... they could have a case where they would play a "gay couple"... I mean, even in 21 Jump Street and that was over 20 years ago, there were "such hints" from time to time, and I even remember that they had to do "something like that"... don't pin me down on this, but I'M pretty sure there was at least on case in which Tom and Doug had to "play guy", and Johnny Depp and Peter DeLuise were definitely aware of the fact that some people wanted their Characters Tom and Doug to be "involved"... there even was some "kissing" behind the camera or better to say in the outtakes and there were SO many scenes...

Problem is: They both got girlfriends after a while, and then it "suddenly stopped" or better to say: they "lost something" when they started dating this girls and were "actually in love", if you wanna say so...

The thing is: I could rather live with the fact of them being single like "forever"... why does there always have to be a girlfriend involved? To prove that they are still straight or what? I mean, why can't 2 male leads be single for at least a while? I mean, okay, Steve is still Single (I would say), but this thing with Catherine wasn't "Neccessary", in my opinioin... but well...

I have to admit: I haven't seen any interviews or something like that and I don't know if Alex or Scott already were questioned about their great chemistry, but I would love to hear their point of view in this thing... but well... if you say Alex already said something about "Bromance", I think it 's really cool of him... I started watching because of Alex, but now I also love Scott big time :-)

(btw. Thanks for betaing... I'm working on the fic right now, and I guess I will post it buy tomorrow... you were a great help and I will definitely mention you! :))

[lamardeuse.livejournal.com]

In response to a question like this, O'Loughlin actually said: "Oh yeah, we will be the bromance of the decade!" :)

I am really starting to love this man. :)

[lamardeuse.livejournal.com]

I don't think you're being naïve at all - there have been several moments already on this show where I start wondering if they're actually going to go there. I mean, anything's possible, but let's just say I'm trying not to get my hopes up for anything on-screen, like with Deniz and Roman! :)

[copper-on-mars.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty sure Catherin should be a "proof" of how straight Steve is... *sighs*

We fangirls never take these things as the writers want us to. :D Instead of believing in his heterosexuality, I think he could be bisexual. Plus, he and Catherine are fuckbuddies with benefits, she doesn't seem to expect him to be romantic, they aren't a cliche. Also, I believe she'd be totally up for a threesome with Steve's hot partner.

It's still sad with Hawaii Five-0, because the "relationship" between Steve and Danny would have SO much potential if you ask me... they could do SO much with the 2 of them... much more than they are doing

Oh, I'd love to see a show about fighting crime with the gay/be/lesbian/trans protagonist (asexual I've seen, BBC Sherlock). It's like those people in TV think only straight people are serving the country and protecting people.

the German TV is REALLY gay-friendly, I would say... we have 5 daily Soaps and I'm watching 3 of them... every single one of them has at least ONE gay pairing... Verbotene Liebe (Forbidden Love) hwill soon have a gay AND a lesbian couple... Alles was zählt "Everything that counts) has Deniz and Roman for years now and this relationship is VERY established... so yes... I think, I can be happy to live where I live...

I've seen only one Russian movie with a realisticaly portrayed gay coulpe (it started that way, then it became a MMF threesome), 'You, I love'. As I 've heard, it killed the actors' careers. D: But the movie is very good. I think it even was translated to English.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_I_Love

[bm-shipper.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah... I don't think there is ANY pairing in the world that can be compared to Deniz and Roman... but the 2 actors Dennis and Igor said a couple of time how comfortable they are with each other and they don't even have a problem with tongue-kissing... so well *lol* I don't think something like that would EVER happen between Danny and Steve, even if it would be hot...

But well... I for example would love something like they have to play a gay couple for a case... I know that's lame, but well... it doesn'T even have to be "romantically", but even SEEING something like that, even if it doesn't mean something, would totally be great, but I don't think we will ever see something like that...w e'll see :)

[bm-shipper.livejournal.com]

Well... I'm not for "labels" at any way... I mean I don't even know what *I* am... For a long time I thought I was gay, before I even had any relationship... then I fell in love with a boy/man and I thought "okay, I'm straight", and well... since I "know" both now, I would say I'm bisexual, but for me it was mostly the PERSON I fall in love with, not the gender... that's a bit "complicated" I think, but well...

I have a friend for example, who had boyfriends her whole life (a girl), until she was 25 and met this woman who totally blew her away and she's together with her now for 5 years... and she always tells me, she can't imagine ever falling for another woman, becaues "normally" she's totally into men... and she always "drooled" over boys and still does...

the thing is: I love to think that there is THE ONE... the RIGHT one, that shows you that Love is not a thing of the gender...

I always intend to think like that when I slash in my tv-shows... like now Steve/Danny... for me it's okay that they are straight at all, but that doesn'T mean there can't be something TOTALLY deep between them... I don't know if you get my point and i have my problems to REALLY write this down in english to be honest *lol* I think, Steve (and Danny) are still attracted to women. Why not? And I definitely have no problems with this, BUT it's obvious (at least for me), that they ALSO Have a "thing" for each other... that they are "kinda" attracted to each other too and love to be togehter :-)

A Threesome with Catherine, Steve and Danny? Why not... if we actually would see some kissing between Steve and Danny and some touching, I would definitely go for this too *lol*

About "Alles was zählt" again... the ladies from "eskimokissproject" have "translated" all of the Deniz/Roman Scenes and episodes on youtube, if you are bored and have time and are interested in watching their storyline... Dennis and Igor (who are playing Deniz and Roman) have such an awesome chemistry... Really, that's sooooooooooooooo hot, and Igor isn't even gay at all, but he always says in interviews how much he likes to kiss Dennis and that he has no problem in tongue-kissing him ;-)

[michele659.livejournal.com]

If they did make them a couple and ratings were good (and they didn't lose sponsors),they'd keep the show on no matter how many complaints they got.
Two prime time shows feature gay characters-Brothers and Sisters and Modern Family. I think Grey's Anatomy now has a gay couple as well.
Having said that,I doubt the writers will "go there." I think the audience they're going for is straight guys,although judging from the slashiness they've caught on that at least some women and gay men are watching. I think they'll keep them straight and play up the "bromance"between them as well as the obvious chemistry between the actors.
I think we'll see them with women from time to time,hopefully not in serious relationships. I prefer the sexual ambiguity and slashy subtext to having to sit through them with many different women,and a relationship with a woman on a show like this(where the plot is about the crime and the relationships are woven in)would just take too much time away from the guys and their friendship/bromance,imo.I agree with you,if we have to see them with women,let it be some casual things that don't take away from the two of them.

[michele659.livejournal.com]

I'm with you-let's at least have the pretend slash! Shows will do that from time to time,having the heterosexual pair be awkward (or maybe enjoying it a little too much,lol).
I tend to love a lot of pairings I know I'll never see. I loved Michael and Alex in PB and thought they were so much better suited than Michael and Sara,House and Chase,Ianto and Owen(I loved Ianto and Jack,but I could see Ianto with Owen,and Ten for that matter,as well)and now,Steve and Danny.
Who are Deniz and Roman,and am I missing something by not seeing them?